If you’ve ever wanted complete, total radical change, and upgrading in your life, then do we have the Phoenix Rising show for you.

Today we’ll talk about how to rise from the ashes, reinvent yourself and discover yourself anew!

Michael Sandler and CJ Liu discuss the secret to transforming the energy and challenges of this time, into something much, much better!




As an Asian-American with 25 years in Corporate America AND an spiritual explorer, CJ is a bridge between science and spirit,Western and Eastern, as well as logical and intuitive. She seeks out ideas from seemingly opposite sides of an issue to help her audience plug into what’s unfolding on a global scale. From energy healers to surgeons, psychics to psychologists, and vegans to ranchers, her diverse guests reflect her commitment to engage, challenge, entertain and enlighten in every show.


So you’re not a monk, but you still want to live a spiritual life? Then Fire it UP with CJ is the place to go! Yep, no shaved heads or orange garments needed to stay grounded, expand your awareness and be inspired to live your best life. Every week CJ interviews some of the most provocative trailblazers in the fields of spirituality, environment, relationships, and parenting. Gandhi had it right when he said change comes from the inside out. Open your mind, open your heart, and make the world a better place just because you’re in it.

Tune in to the all-new episodes of Fire it UP with CJ Wednesday at 5/4c!


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Key Points Discussed:

  • Michael’s fascinating birthday and how different it was from all his previous birthdays (03:17)
  • The Phoenix Rising experience that has influenced the new logo for the show (05:40)
  • Why we should let go of the old and what doesn’t serve us anymore to allow for something else to come in (07:54)
  • The symbolism of the horrible nightmare that kept repeating itself (12:34)
  • Choosing not to ignore the numerous signs they have gotten to move house (15:04)
  • The power of nature that CJ was recently reminded of (20:16)
  • Living more in 48 hours (Trying to get the car grill replaced) than most people have in a year (21:39)
  • Letting go of attachment to get lighter and giving away their 5,000 Barefoot Running books to people in need (24:00)
  • Reminiscing about their numerous moves and looking at his 50th birthday as a complete rebirth (26:10)
  • Learning how to go into her worst fears in order to heal them (29:02)
  • Going out and watching the sunrise every morning, and how it has helped Michael heal, resync his body, and sleep better (31:26)
  • How the heart of consciousness relates to the sun (36:34)
  • Michael and Jessica’s special and sacred connection to animals and nature (38:00)
  • The connection of everything and the meaning of drawing angelic protection cards more than once in a row (42:03)
  • Letting out the anger, hatred, and resentment to deal with unfinished business (45:10)
  • Making a custom chicken backpack for Rooroo so he can go running with Michael (50:26)
  • Letting go and surrendering especially during this time that the whole world has hit a tree (53:48)

Other Podcasts Featuring CJ:

INSPIRE #1369: How to Get Unspun, and Get BACK in the Flow!!! (Michael Sandler and CJ Liu)

INSPIRE #1336: How to Use Stay At Home to Grow Your Wings!!! (Michael Sandler and CJ Liu)


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